Hi Rick. From my point of view, those are completely different songs. I like Marvin Gaye as well as Ed Sheeran. But in this case, I do trust Ed Sheeran, may have been, in the last case, influenced by Gaye,
Wanderley Oliveira
Brazil
Iâm not a Sheeran fan but he should be sued for everything you mentioned but since the melody of the actual songs are very different.. 100 million dollars is over acting.
Worrying decision. I thought the precedent was George Harrisonâs case my sweet lord. Anything over 4 bars with an identical melody ,rhythm and harmony was the cut off. Private property is a bastion of our legal system protecting Property owners . So who owns 1-6-2-5- ? How long before that is appropriated.
Sorry but I disagree that Lyrics and Melody âmake upâ a song.. Itâs that ALONG WITH the rhythmic components (aka the GROOVE).. MOST people donât dance to âlyrics and melodyâ. Most people dance to the Rhythmic components (aka the GROOVE) of a song. The Melody and lyrics are what make it âmemorableâ but itâs EVERYTHING (the groove, the melody AND the lyrics) that makes it a âsongâ.
Personally I believe itâs plagiarism to take a GROOVE and create new lyrical and melodic components over top of it..
IF thatâs the case then NO HipHop/Rap song should have to give anyone credit for their âinterpolationsâ (which is much different than sampling â aka you pay someone-like myself for example- to simply perform the four bar section)..
In that case, NO Rock act should be held accountable for âstealing licksâ (Led Zeppelin stealing the Blues guysâ stuff, or the Stairway to heaven guitar riffs for example)..
What can be said then about Instrumental tracks (Jazz, soundtracks, etc.) then? The artists/groups canât or shouldnât be able to âcopyrightâ a âgrooveâ?
Edâs groove section almost completely sounds EXACTLY like Marvin Gayeâs groove section (especially after you transposed it) and, to me, thatâs just not rightâŚ
Happy New Years
https://youtu.be/yhcmG-qpndw
KDubbs tha Bassist
We see the same chord progressions in so many pop songs. Pretty sure a four-chord progression isnât an infringement. Someone with no musical background and no ear shouldnât be judging this case.
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Hi Rick. From my point of view, those are completely different songs. I like Marvin Gaye as well as Ed Sheeran. But in this case, I do trust Ed Sheeran, may have been, in the last case, influenced by Gaye,
Wanderley Oliveira
Brazil
Iâm not a Sheeran fan but he should be sued for everything you mentioned but since the melody of the actual songs are very different.. 100 million dollars is over acting.
Worrying decision. I thought the precedent was George Harrisonâs case my sweet lord. Anything over 4 bars with an identical melody ,rhythm and harmony was the cut off. Private property is a bastion of our legal system protecting Property owners . So who owns 1-6-2-5- ? How long before that is appropriated.
Sorry but I disagree that Lyrics and Melody âmake upâ a song.. Itâs that ALONG WITH the rhythmic components (aka the GROOVE).. MOST people donât dance to âlyrics and melodyâ. Most people dance to the Rhythmic components (aka the GROOVE) of a song. The Melody and lyrics are what make it âmemorableâ but itâs EVERYTHING (the groove, the melody AND the lyrics) that makes it a âsongâ.
Personally I believe itâs plagiarism to take a GROOVE and create new lyrical and melodic components over top of it..
IF thatâs the case then NO HipHop/Rap song should have to give anyone credit for their âinterpolationsâ (which is much different than sampling â aka you pay someone-like myself for example- to simply perform the four bar section)..
In that case, NO Rock act should be held accountable for âstealing licksâ (Led Zeppelin stealing the Blues guysâ stuff, or the Stairway to heaven guitar riffs for example)..
What can be said then about Instrumental tracks (Jazz, soundtracks, etc.) then? The artists/groups canât or shouldnât be able to âcopyrightâ a âgrooveâ?
Edâs groove section almost completely sounds EXACTLY like Marvin Gayeâs groove section (especially after you transposed it) and, to me, thatâs just not rightâŚ
Happy New Years
https://youtu.be/yhcmG-qpndw
KDubbs tha Bassist
We see the same chord progressions in so many pop songs. Pretty sure a four-chord progression isnât an infringement. Someone with no musical background and no ear shouldnât be judging this case.